#readsaa

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Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Link to the June discussion so far: http://t.co/ugVvAfQTk5. Feel free to chime in. And on Tuesday PM, we'll use the hashtag #readSAA
Eira Tansey
eiratansey

Folks participating in @barkivist's Reading archivists group, don't forget about the tweet-chat tonight! http://t.co/FkeIu9MgeK #readSAA
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Last reminder of tonight's 8pm EST discussion of SAA presidential addresses of Gracy (84) and Jimerson (05). http://t.co/ugVvAfQTk5 #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Okay, folks! Time to talk about Gracy, Jimerson, SAA and the archival profession. First, who all is joining in tonight? #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

For those who don't know me, I'm Erin. Univ Archivist at UNCG. I'm leading discussion this mo. @stephestellar takes over for July. #readsaa
natalie baur
nataliembaur

@barkivist ohh, what is this #readsaa?
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

Joining #readsaa tonight from Indianapolis, I'm Archivist @imamuseum - didn't get chance to comment on blog, looking forward to live chat!
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

#readSAA Hey it's Kathleen--i may be the only one who's heard both speeches live...
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@nataliembaur Our reading group for past SAA pres addresses. Feel free to join chat even if you haven't read the addresses! #readsaa
Eira Tansey
eiratansey

@barkivist I'm here! Eira (name rhymes w/Sara), Midwestern archivist recently repatriated from New Orleans #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Q1 from @KDRoe122's blog comment today. Gracy talked abt promoting archives/archivists in 84. Why haven't we done this (well)? #readsaa
Caryn Radick
carynradick

@barkivist #readsaa caryn in nj. Looking forward to the tweeting!
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

“@eiratansey: @nataliembaur @barkivist Here is the url http://t.co/m5HENxdvjy#readsaa
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

#readSAA did/do we think it is indecorous for scholarly types?
Eira Tansey
eiratansey

Q1 archives are so short-staffed yr always putting out fires that pop up daily. Makes it v. difficult to do long-term planning #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

A1 Was struck by summary of responses to TF on Archives, Society (TFAS) from SAA members - major concerns were all internal to prof #readsaa
Eira Tansey
eiratansey

@KDRoe122 I'm confused? #readsaa
Tanya Zanish-Belcher
tzanish

Tanya at Wake Forest--agree with Eira, distraction of budgets, too much work, internally focused. #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@SamiNorling That's a big shift I saw btwn Gracy and Jimerson speeches - internal prof focus v. external impact/potential. #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

A1 Even though TFAS suggested some great general public advocacy/outreach ideas, seemed that membership didn't have as priority #readsaa
Caryn Radick
carynradick

Q1 with #readsaa hashtag this time. Think we often aren't clear among ourselves about who we are, so hard to communicate to others.
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@SamiNorling It's only been really recently that I've seen substantial shift in SAA conf session topics to inc external focus. #readsaa
badger5
badger5

A1 We're getting better. The internet and social media are powerful outreach tools. It can't have been easy promoting before that. #readsaa
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

@eiratansey #readSAA in the 90s there was common attitude among some that advocacy/awareness was not scholarly
Tanya Zanish-Belcher
tzanish

Both time consuming-Different kinds of advocacy--local and personal about value of archives v broader societal support/legislative #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@KDRoe122 @eiratansey To some degree, I think that's still true. At least for those in tenure track positions. #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

@badger5 Great point! Now could be the perfect combination of desire to advocate + ability to do so through many different channels #readsaa
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

@SamiNorling @barkivist #readSAA it can be--if we engage and energize both archivists.and key publix
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Q2 A recurring theme = promoting the archivist as opposed to archives. How can we make our work more visible to various audiences? #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

A1 Gracy made point that still stands today about our focus often being advocacy to internal stakeholders #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

A1 2/2...social media may allow for external outreach to have positive impact on standing of archives internally too #readsaa #twobirds
Tanya Zanish-Belcher
tzanish

@SamiNorling completely agree!! #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@DerangeDescribe @eiratansey @KDRoe122 I'm lucky that I had Dr Gracy to encourage me make all the waves I wanted to make. :-) #readsaa
Caryn Radick
carynradick

A2. I think trying to meet others on their territory.tell them a story that connects with their community, is a good way to engage #readsaa
Tanya Zanish-Belcher
tzanish

Important to integrate archives into org function, day to day advocacy #readsaa
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

#readSAA Q2 also need compelling stories/info that are more than interesting trivia
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

A2 Feel VERY strongly about this; I believe behind-the-scenes info, sharing about ourselves can be incorporated into most outreach #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@carynradick Yes! @KDRoe122 has excellent stories about personalizing/targeting your advocacy and stories. #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@tzanish Do you have suggestions for folks who might be struggling with integrating into day to day of their org? #readsaa
Eira Tansey
eiratansey

Q2 Never ever say no to a film or radio interview, this makes the person behind the work more knowable than print can #readsaa
Tanya Zanish-Belcher
tzanish

Always be a resource, be first to volunteer/collaborate, help colleagues at all times @barkivist #readsaa
Caryn Radick
carynradick

A2 It's also tricky to figure out if you're more of a "behind the scenes" person...finding a comfort level.#readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

FYI While COPA isn't meeting until next wkend, I'm hoping we'll help build a clearinghouse for successful advocacy stories. #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Q3 What role do you think SAA should play in professional advocacy efforts? What can the org do to help those on front lines? #readsaa
Eira Tansey
eiratansey

Q3 I wish SAA had closer relationships with many allied organizations, but I have a feeling that there's backstory I don't know #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@badger5 I think the newer committees might help here. I&ART has tried to quickly act but it's hard to build org consensus quickly. #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

A3 Your idea of creating a "clearinghouse" with SAA support is great example of how org can provide venues for advocacy discussion #readsaa
Susan
kitschqueen

Q3: ensure every job ad posted on the website lists a salary range. #readSAA
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@carynradick Very true. It's hard to be externally focused if you're introverted. #readsaa
Tanya Zanish-Belcher
tzanish

Committee on Advocacy and Public Policy (created 2013) working on responding to current issues #readsaa
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

@eiratansey #readSAA examples? sister professions or those who use and benefit from archives?
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@eiratansey I saw a post a few days ago abt RBMS wanting to work w SAA on instruction issues. A good start! #readsaa
Caryn Radick
carynradick

@barkivist I think sometimes it's difficult to figure out how to "enter the fray" even with the awareness/desire to affect change #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@eiratansey @KDRoe122 Extending beyond library world is a great idea. The GA archives situation showed how important that can be! #readsaa
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

@carynradick @barkivist #readSAA Caryn what would help make it less off-putting?
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Q3a to follow up @eiratansey's comment. What groups would you like to see SAA work with in promoting/building an advocacy agenda? #readsaa
Eira Tansey
eiratansey

@barkivist I really think SAA needs to forge better alliances with open government groups. And with records management orgs. #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@carynradick Good point! What might help you feel more comfortable jumping in? This can be work COPA can help with! #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

A3a Collaboration with @ncph could be extremely beneficial - they are currently advocating externally http://t.co/hQ8jQgMgZa #readsaa
Caryn Radick
carynradick

@KDRoe122 I do think about this. I've noticed a strain of. "Be an advocate! introverted? get over it!" has opposite effect. #readSAA 1/2
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@nataliembaur Did you get a sense in ALI disc of why this isn't the case? Aside from busy-ness, is there something holding us back? #readsaa
Caryn Radick
carynradick

@KDRoe122 I think the "let's think of different ways people might find their voices" approach would be helpful. #readSAA
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

#readSAA Q3 Nat'l Assn of Secretaries of State, Natl Assn of Attorneys General, Bar Assn, College Presidents assn---who need our records
Tanya Zanish-Belcher
tzanish

Would also like to re-connect with historians and AHA #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@KDRoe122 Good point! And we also need to make clear to them WHY they need our records!! #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@tzanish Good point! and many other acad disciplines now have history-focused subgroups that might be good company too! #readsaa
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

@carynradick #readSAA good point sometimes better to supply the ammunition for our users to do the talking
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@nataliembaur True. I guess the next question would be how can you shift the whole paradigm? :-) a big question. #readsaa
Caryn Radick
carynradick

@barkivist @KDRoe122 feeling the 144 character limit in trying to respond, but I do have thoughts! #readSAA
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Final Q4: Defining the work of the archivist. That's a Q that keeps popping up. Do we need to? If so, how? #readsaa
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

@carynradick @barkivist contact me offline if u have more ideas than tweet characters...this is sooo on my mind #readSAA
Caryn Radick
carynradick

A4 if we want or convey what we do to others, absolutely! #readSAA
Caryn Radick
carynradick

@KDRoe122 @barkivist will do! #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

A4 That's a hard one--yes and no. Danger in defining what we do when we really can do SO MUCH, but hard to convey in a "definition" #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

A4 Would be concerned about pinholing a profession whose greatest strength is range of abilities and potential in various settings #readsaa
Eira Tansey
eiratansey

Q4 What an archivist does is getting more ambiguous. I'm comfortable w it but understand why others aren't #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@SamiNorling Exactly! W/out clear sense of "archivist," advocacy is tough. But with it, who/what do we leave out? #readsaa
Caryn Radick
carynradick

@SamiNorling A4 I think it's a balance between knowing our own complexities, but having a "simpler" way of conveying them #readSAA
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

To wrap up tonight's chat, I'll throw out my fave quote from the June readings. #readsaa +
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

@barkivist Ahhh yet another paradox (or perhaps Gracy covered this in discussion of our intense passion for archival work) #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

A4 This paradox is one reason I see great value in inserting the archivist into the outreach we do for our individual repositories #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

"The public knows that records are of value but not why or for what. Until the 'why' & 'for what' are settled, the priority of #readsaa +
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

records keeping, and hence the value of the records keeper, are up in the air." (Gracy 16-7) #readsaa
natalie baur
nataliembaur

@eiratansey same is happening w librarians but tambour of discussion there much different #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

@barkivist Great idea! My favorite from Gracy: "We work to save, in an age that prizes disposability and impermanence" #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Thanks for joining us tonight. Keep chatting! & keep an eye out for @stephestellar leading July discussion of professional issues. #readsaa
Caryn Radick
carynradick

@barkivist thanks for starting the blog and this discussion! #readsaa
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

#readSAA I like that both Rand and David begin with a story
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

Thoroughly enjoyed the discussion, and looking forward to blog comments + live chat about the next round! #readsaa
Tanya Zanish-Belcher
tzanish

Hot Dog! As Dr. Gracy would say #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@KDRoe122 I also liked how Rand wove so many pop culture references into his speech. To me, makes the story all the more engaging. #readsaa
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

Thanks Erin for stepping up and making this happen! #readSAA
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Storify for last night's Reading Archivists group, focused on Gracy (84) and Jimerson (05) SAA addresses: https://t.co/ttpBNf1kmH #readsaa
Samantha Winn
Sam_Winn

@barkivist @eiratansey Belated #readsaa comment, but I would love to see SAA work more closely with international groups like ICA, IFLA
Samantha Winn
Sam_Winn

@stephestellar I finally had a chance to read through the two speeches you nominated for #readSAA. I have so many thoughts! Great picks.
Samantha Winn
Sam_Winn

Catch up on this month's #readsaa posts in time for a tweetchat tomorrow night, 8pm EST: http://t.co/ElEN5fTawX
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

@stephestellar I've had situations where I feel someone is listening but not hearing me. May involve action or just conversation. #readsaa
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

@stephestellar Esp. important in early prof. processing positions, where making decisions quickly + being confident in them is key #readsaa
badger5
badger5

Q3 You can always learn something new no matter where you are in the profession. You just need to be open to it. #readsaa
Kathleen Roe
KDRoe122

@stephestellar @badger5 #readSAA Introvert is a word with bad rep. I am an introvert to the point of almost off the charts....
natalie baur
nataliembaur

@Sam_Winn @badger5 @charmingred let me know. That would be a badass #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

ICYMI: Anyone up for leading #readsaa in Feb? I'm feeling a bit prof spent & I need a break - but want to see talks go on if folks want.
Sami Norling
SamiNorling

@barkivist Love that you're open to non-pres addresses for #readsaa now that we've covered many...I'll start thinking about possibilities!
Samantha Winn
Sam_Winn

I am so excited for tonight's #readsaa chat on archival education and professional identity! One of my fav topics. :D http://t.co/w7Qdg7evf7
Bergis Jules
BergisJules

.@barkivist is doing a great job with #readsaa. Important discussions about the profession. Mostly been following but will participate more.
natalie baur
nataliembaur

Yo #critlib followers, you should also be following #readsaa #readsaa1 #readsaa2...currently on #readsaa6 tonight. Critical archives ftw!
Caryn Radick
carynradick

Q4 @barkivist @eiratansey Reading Adkins address, I wondered if groups tasked with diversity just got overwhelmed. #readsaa
Samantha Winn
Sam_Winn

This month, @eiratansey leads #readsaa in a discussion over "archival education and identity." Join the convo: http://t.co/w7Qdg7evf7
Samantha Winn
Sam_Winn

January discussion questions are up for #readsaa6. Chat is scheduled for Friday, January 30, 8:00pm EST https://t.co/5rP8Z66TGM #readsaa
Samantha Winn
Sam_Winn

Mwa ha ha ha, mwa ha ha!* *I am excited about this month's #readsaa discussion... acquisition, appraisal, and activism! Oh my!
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Reminder that the Reading Archivists group is back! September is focused on diversity in the profession: http://t.co/egud6D6yaX #readsaa
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Last call! Anyone up for leading #readsaa in Feb? I need a break - but want to see talks go on if folks want.
Samantha Winn
Sam_Winn

For all following #readsaa, I plan to share the first post this week (intro to our readings for the month and a few thoughts), stay tuned!
badger5
badger5

@nataliembaur Like what? #readsaa
Steve Ammidown
stegan

Ooooh- there is some really good stuff in these #readsaa addresses. http://t.co/5xhp87obRq
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Anyone up for leading #readsaa in Feb? I'm feeling a bit professionally spent & I need a break - but want to see talks go on if folks want.
Lindsay Zaborowski
L_Zaborowski

#readsaa OK, got to go pick up husband. Look forward to catching up later! Bye!
Samantha Winn
Sam_Winn

Another reminder that this month's installment of #readsaa is up! Readings on activism, appraisal, acquisition. http://t.co/DguZjZnbdJ
amelish
amelish

Looks like I missed the #readsaa Jimerson discussion. Too bad; that address has been formative for me. Read it here: http://t.co/8rX4eCqoVZ
S. Bennett
stephestellar

If you can't tell from my TL - "Reading Archivists live chat, July 2014" posted on Storify now! http://t.co/7PEcJgsLGe #readsaa #readsaa2
Jennifer S.
CyclinArchivist

@eiratansey Seriously, when I see things like the #readsaa convos, I get all the imposter syndrome.
Lindsay Zaborowski
L_Zaborowski

#readsaa A2 Accreditation of graduate programs that involves actual archivists
Samantha Winn
Sam_Winn

.@eiratansey thank you for sharing that! Burke's address would be so perfect for #readsaa!
Erin Lawrimore
barkivist

Interesting in leading a future #readsaa discussion? Let me know!! Lots of great topics remain unexplored! http://t.co/OUYOUD4n4U
Samantha Winn
Sam_Winn

This month, #readsaa is discussing presidential addresses by F. Gerald Ham & Frank Boles. Join us Jan 30 @8pm EST for tweet chat, #readsaa6