Eira Tanseyeiratansey
Y'all don't forget that the next installment of Reading Archivists #readSAA2 is tonight at 8pm EST! http://t.co/qw689OVM5d
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
Y'all don't forget that the next installment of Reading Archivists #readSAA2 is tonight at 8pm EST! http://t.co/qw689OVM5d
anna-sophiaaszingarelli
Hmmm, to #readSAA2 or to #critlib tonight? Or maybe to sign off Twitter and celebrate finishing my last finals ever?
S. Bennettstephestellar
#readSAA2 crowd - any questions you want to discuss in tonight's chat? Lemme know!
S. Bennettstephestellar
@aszingarelli I third celebrate but if you want to come #readSAA2 we'll be happy to have you
S. Bennettstephestellar
One hour til #readsaa2 - eat your wheaties and get your opinions readied! http://t.co/FR24EkZhCs
S. Bennettstephestellar
Okay, let's kick off #readsaa2! Is this thing on?
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
#readSAA2 So far it seems to be! thanks for doing this!
S. Bennettstephestellar
This month's #readsaa2 readings had me thinking a lot about leadership, past present and future
S. Bennettstephestellar
Q1 what characteristics do you appreciate in other leaders or seek to develop in yourself (even if it's leading an ad hoc team)? #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
Joining #readsaa2 from Indianapolis tonight, Sami, Archivist @imamuseum - looking forward to the discussion! http://t.co/UrUDvhrKYD
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
#readSAA2 Loyalty is #1 for me--i.e. caring about serving the profession, colleagues, constituents.
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
@stephestellar Visibility. Only showing up when you want something from someone is not a good way to cultivate allies. #readsaa2
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
Q1 I appreciate a leader who *truly* wants feedback/buy-in from others in the group (& group members who are willing to give it!). #readsaa2
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
Also, reliability. #1 pet peeve is when someone asks me 2 email them, I do, & then I never hear back. Email triage is not hard #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
Q1 The ability to inspire excitement and passion for project/goal/message/etc. - essential to success of almost anything #readsaa2
badger5badger5
Q1 Creative vision and encouraging it in others. #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@eiratansey Definitely not! Obvious to all parties why you're there - won't cultivate @KDRoe122's loyalty #readsaa2
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
Q1 I'm working on clearly articulating value - how is each person's work valued? How is the project valuable to those invoked? #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
Sounds like communication is a big one, in a variety of aspects - used to cultivate loyalty, respect, or enthusiasm #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@barkivist Does that have to be follow by action, a la Renze? Or is listening the most important part? #readsaa2
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
#readSAA2 Also great when a leader truly enjoys success of a combined effort, seeing everyone pull together.
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@stephestellar @barkivist #readSAA2 Yes to action--in order to act, need to listen, but listening w/o action...well, where does it "lead"
Samantha WinnSam_Winn
#readsaa2 Q1. Empathy, honesty, patience. Leaders should take long view of situations/relationships, can't afford to be reactionary
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
Q1 I also really appreciate a leader who gives a good amount of autonomy, shows confidence in individual knowledge, skill 1/2 #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@KDRoe122 I love it too! I think to be a successful leader, you have to enjoy that effort - such impt part of getting stuff done! #readsaa2
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
@KDRoe122 Yes!! Celebrating a shared success in a visible way is important in many cases. Credit all the parties!! #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
Q1 My first archival mentor treated me like colleague, gave me chance to show skills, knowledge from day 1 and I thrived 2/2 #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
From everyone's comments: I would let any of y'all lead me! #readsaa2
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
#readSAA2 But also sometimes a leader has to put forward hard choices and stand behind decisions--can't please all, sometimes few.
S. Bennettstephestellar
@SamiNorling Supported independence is huge for me too; I love it when my boss says "you can make these decisions on your own" #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
Q2 Blog comments touched on communication divides w/in profession. What are strategies to combat getting "stuck" in one network? #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@KDRoe122 YES. Change management skills seem especially crucial in libraries #readsaa2
Samantha WinnSam_Winn
#readsaa2 Q2. I think you have to actively cultivate relationships with other groups.
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
@KDRoe122 And that person needs to have a boss who will support them in that!! Otherwise it can backfire. #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@KDRoe122 Haha! Not bad. Maybe offer breath mints after snacks #readsaa2
Samantha WinnSam_Winn
#readsaa2 Q2. It's more than just showing up in that community's space though, you have to try to hear them on their terms
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
Q2 Sometimes best bet is to create new forums for communication, when people are disinclined to venture into unfamiliar realm #readsaa2
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
Q2 This is precisely why I want more established archivists to be leading more Lunch Buddy outings :) #readsaa2 #saa14
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
Q2 Volunteer for RT/Section/Committee position. I met so many good people on Awards Com. Most I wouldn't have met otherwise. #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@Sam_Winn I try to find a commonality and go from there. Start the conversation from a shared place #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@eiratansey Yes ME TOO! Wonder if just too many competing priorities? #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@barkivist I've heard awards committee is good way to get "in" with SAA work #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@Sam_Winn I wonder, though, how to welcome in introverts? Any tips/tactics you use? #readsaa2
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
@stephestellar I loved it. Three years on a sub-comm and two as chair. You learn a lot abt SAA, meet good people, etc. #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@KDRoe122 I'm considering a button that says "Don't hesitate to say hi!" #readsaa2
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@stephestellar @barkivist #readSAA2 just attending a cmte mtg even if not a member can be easy intro--it's how Richard PM &I became buds
S. Bennettstephestellar
@SamiNorling I believe that! Sometimes best way to change is set up new mechanisms with new rules that everyone learns 2gether #readsaa2
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@stephestellar #readSAA2 You make it, I'll wear it. Good test of whether people will do it!
Samantha WinnSam_Winn
@stephestellar #readsaa2 I try to make space to engage folks in private convos where they may be more comfortable
S. Bennettstephestellar
Twitter can seem like a clique - trying to break out of Twitter at #saa14 this year! #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
Q3 How do you answer @minniedw's question about how SAA/experienced archivists and new archivists can help each other? #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@badger5 Maybe we should all just start scaring people... #readsaa2 @kdroe122
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@stephestellar #readSAA2 Good for you! I talk more than 140 characters...sigh
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
Q3 My hope is that perceived differences will be overcome as archivists see we need to rally together to advocate for profession #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
I'm focusing on making sure that I'm talking to ppl I wouldn't otherwise - especially those up the chain who intimidate me! #readsaa2
Samantha WinnSam_Winn
#readsaa2 Q3. Find common ground, recognize each other's humanity, make space for them in your own community, give honest feedback
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
@stephestellar @minniedw Less assumptions, more listening, believe that all struggles are inter-generational, goes for both sides. #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
(it's not your fault, experienced archivists - I think it's my military upbringing) #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@Sam_Winn Humanity is big! We are all people, not just viewpoints or ideologies - but can be easy to lose sight of that virtually #readsaa2
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@SamiNorling #readSAA2 AMEN! when we focus on the work and the need, differences blur and personal takes a back seat.
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
Q3 We need more talk abt profession holistically (not just new & old) in order to advocate for our work and bridge perceived gaps. #readsaa2
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
@badger5 don't leave us without sharing your feelings on the Renze piece :) #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@eiratansey Agree! The ppl here are a small - supportive, but small - percent of the profession #readsaa2 @KDRoe122
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@stephestellar #readSAA2 So does this mean you will come talk to me at SAA? (or only if I bark like a bad-tempered general?)
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
@SamiNorling I really like the diversity of experience on COPA. I think that will prove quite beneficial. #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
(I'm trying to keep up with all the tweets! This managing a tweet-up is tricky business) #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
@KDRoe122 Exactly! Now to get past the perennial problem of rallying a profession with so many disparate job titles/functions... #readsaa2
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@stephestellar @eiratansey #readSAA2 Leading by example--mayb try to reach out to/connect with one single new person each time. multiplies
S. Bennettstephestellar
@barkivist @SamiNorling Have you found it educational so far? I know it's early - seems like a good opportunity #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
@KDRoe122 ...which IMHO is really the biggest problem, even though the generational divide gets most of the attention #readsaa2
badger5badger5
@eiratansey Overall, pretty good. I did not like the idealized bit about it being a dedicated service like teaching or ministry. #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
@stephestellar @barkivist 1st meeting was enlightening; showed how much work we have to accomplish, but how rewarding it could be #readsaa2
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
@stephestellar @SamiNorling Def great potential there. Only one meeting so far but I'm excited about our path forward! #readsaa2
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@badger5 @eiratansey #readSAA2 Just remember context Renze worked in--male govt bureaucrat dominated time in profession. Needed some soul!
S. Bennettstephestellar
Q4 Building off a question from last month - defining the work of an archivist. Have these readings affected yr definition/view? #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
ie perhaps solidified your view it's not a ministry/vocation a la @badger5 #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
Q4 My thoughts RE definition of "archivist" are very fluid right now - slowly coalescing into a more community-centric concept #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@SamiNorling So - more like "archivist" is what the community of archivists make it, and the work we do together? #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
Part of Q4 is, how important *is* a definition? I'm personally not sure how crucial it is to my prof identity #readsaa2
badger5badger5
Q4 I'm not sure if the definition is important. Let's all do good work and support each other. #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
@stephestellar Even I can't quite explain yet; we're getting to point where we need to form more united front to present to others #readsaa2
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
Q4 I think its interesting to observe the blurring of lines between archivists, librarians, and digital-anything-er #readsaa2
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
Q4 Don't know abt def but I've been thinking more abt promoting archivists/archival work vs. archives & stories they contain. #readsaa2
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
@stephestellar there's a long history of "can anyone claim they are an archivist?" that has srsly divided the profession @ times #readsaa2
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@stephestellar #readSAA2 less important to me to define than what I/we can make happen w/archives, for people. 1/2
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@stephestellar #readSAA2 Amazing things happen all the time because of archives and archivists. 2/2
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
@SamiNorling @stephestellar yes, this. and this is why many ppl argue we *do* need a consistent definition of who an archivist is #readsaa2
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
@eiratansey Definitely!! And interesting to see some resistance to the blurring too. #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
@badger5 Amen! Definition is often a major hang-up for archivists; seems that profession has backed down from a lot of efforts... #readsaa2
Samantha WinnSam_Winn
@eiratansey @stephestellar I'm still working this out, mindful of existence of alt paths into profession #readsaa2
Jenny Johnsonjennyj1j
@stephestellar Agree, even separating ourselves by institution type, gov't, academic, corporate, etc, creates barriers #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
@eiratansey @SamiNorling Fun to think about what we can unite around. Ppl have to want to see the connex tho #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
@badger5 ...due to lack of consensus on what we and our goals are--perhaps a consensus that we don't need! #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
Okay, winding #readsaa2 down - bonus Q: favorite quote from the readings?
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@eiratansey @SamiNorling @stephestellar #readSAA2 Agreed-too many woozy uses--like term "citizen archivists".Wld we value citizen dentists?
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
@badger5 ...Or the consensus could be to finally embrace, as a group, the variety in our profession. #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
From Renze: "Genuine enthusiasm makes a person almost unbeatable, no matter what the field in which he is trying to lead" #readsaa2
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
#readSAA2 Fav. Renze: Do you think it worthwhile continuing the effort to do something? Or is it best to make fine speeches and gestures?
Erin Lawrimorebarkivist
Thanks to @stephestellar for an awesome #readsaa2 chat!! Stay tuned for next month's look at Adkins and Fleckner's addresses!
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
Not enough characters! #readsaa2
Steve Ammidownstegan
Enjoyed following along with the #readsaa2 discussion tonight!
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
@stephestellar IMO, definition not nearly as important as *message* that many archivists can and will gladly rally around #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
@eiratansey We may all be @AVPreserve night, maybe we should meet for round of drinks? Regardless, I'll be on the lookout for all! #readsaa2
Kathleen RoeKDRoe122
@barkivist @stephestellar #readSAA2 And thanks to all for energizing and exciting chat!
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
@Sam_Winn @stephestellar @eiratansey Yes! Let's impress on public HOW MUCH archivists are qualified to help with, do for all of us #readsaa2
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
Renze: "The position of leadership is no place for a perfectionist" #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
I'll be putting together a storify from tonight's #readsaa2 chat - many thanks to everyone who came to discuss!
natalie baurnataliembaur
Yo #critlib followers, you should also be following #readsaa #readsaa1 #readsaa2...currently on #readsaa6 tonight. Critical archives ftw!
S. Bennettstephestellar
The Storify from tonight's #readsaa2 will be born forth in the world tomorrow night!
S. Bennettstephestellar
We'll have to try to amass a #readsaa2 contingent at #saa14! Using our leadership code words as a secret handshake
Brad Houstonherodotusjr
Noooooo I forgot #readsaa2 was tonight! Oh well, at least i was listening to live music in the park instead
Eira Tanseyeiratansey
@barkivist Yeaaah way to go @stephestellar ! Great reading picks, great discussion. Hope I see most (all?) of y'all in DC :) <3 #readsaa2
S. Bennettstephestellar
If you can't tell from my TL - "Reading Archivists live chat, July 2014" posted on Storify now! http://t.co/7PEcJgsLGe #readsaa #readsaa2
Sami NorlingSamiNorling
Thanks everyone for another great chat--quickly becoming my favorite monthly event--imagine the combined energy if we met IRL! #readsaa2